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Topic Subject:Creating and Adding Minimaps and Pictures
Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 07-16-04 16:39 EST (US)         
Want to add a minimap or picture to your description page or to the forum? Here is the easiest way to do it:

How to Add a Minimap to the Description Page


  1. Begin by downloading the PNG utility from here:
    http://stronghold.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=67
  2. A text file with instructions comes with the utility. When you open the program a very small screen appears. Select any map file from your maps folder (which can typically be found here on your computer: C:\Program Files\FireFly Studios\Stronghold\Maps).
  3. Drag and drop the map file onto the screen, and it will create a PNG file. The PNG file has the same name as the map, but with the .png extension, and is still located in the maps folder.
  4. You can now upload this png directly into the description area by browsing to and selecting it where it says Minimap in the upload form.


Pictures in the Forum - Using BB Code
If you want to add a picture to your forum post, you can do it by creating a GIF or JPEG using the photo/picture editing software on your own computer.


  1. To get a screenshot from within Stronghold, hit Alt-PrintScn to copy it.
  2. Paste it into your editing software (Paint, Photoshop, etc.)
  3. Crop the picture however you like it, then save it.
  4. Upload the picture to your own webspace (free webspace can be found at bravenet or freespace, etc.)
    From Octavius: If you need a free site to host files and pics and such that you can link to, use http://files.villagephotos.com/index.asp. 30MB's, and you can basically use it for storage and link to the files from your bravenet site

  5. Get the URL for your picture by right-clicking on it (once it's uploaded) and going to Properties. You can copy the address and paste it into your post.
  6. If you want the picture itself to appear, use this code:
    [img]http://www.castor-lycan.com/walls.JPG[/img]

    This appears as:

  7. If you want just a link to the picture to appear, use this code:
    [url=http://www.castor-lycan.com/walls.JPG]Link to Picture of Walls[/url]

    This appears as: Link to Picture of Walls

If you have a bunch of pictures, or the files are large, then it's better to just have a link to them, so people on dial-up don't suffer too greatly!

Note: If you want to add another picture to your description page, other than a PNG map that Jayhawk has uploaded, you can follow these same steps, just use standard html rather than BB Code. Such as:

<img src="http://www.castor-lycan.com/kester-maze.JPG" align="left">

And that's it!

*updated by Merepatra to reflect the easier system for uploading minimaps in the new Stronghold Downloads section.


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[This message has been edited by Kester (edited 07-12-2005 @ 02:50 PM).]

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NeKoeNMa
Archer
posted 07-17-04 12:11 EST (US)     1 / 26       
Great article Kester, and thanks to the mod that made it sticky.
NAT
Banned
posted 07-24-04 10:55 EST (US)     2 / 26       
Very useful No more endless questionning about uploading minimaps and pictures!
Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 07-26-04 03:40 EST (US)     3 / 26       
That's assuming people actually read before they email
Great work, Kester. Thanks!

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ladyjane
Archer
posted 07-30-04 11:24 EST (US)     4 / 26       
Well, let us not be pessimistic.
I hope, that they also will read this message from Jayhawk about uploading maps:

http://stronghold.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forum/display.cgi?action=ct&f=17,1102,,10

Quoted from Jayhawk:

Please note that for a map to be approved after today, you will need to put in at least a brief description of what your map is actually about.

Question: Why not the same rule for an upload without a minimap?

I don’t see many minimaps here!
And it is so easy to add one.
Thanks for your article, Kester!


"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." George Bernard Shaw.

[This message has been edited by ladyjane (edited 07-30-2004 @ 11:26 AM).]

Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 08-02-04 02:18 EST (US)     5 / 26       

Quote:

Question: Why not the same rule for an upload without a minimap?


A minimap is extra.
A description is a minimal requirement

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DarckRedd
Archer
posted 11-30-04 13:46 EST (US)     6 / 26       
I find it easier to just host the file on my own site.

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Zebas
Archer
posted 11-30-04 16:14 EST (US)     7 / 26       
Works both ways.

But the problem with free sites is that they tend to close themselves after 90 days or so. Whoops no pic! So for scen. desc. page pics. it's safer to send them to Jayhawk.

Sir Tman
Archer
posted 12-01-04 10:31 EST (US)     8 / 26       
Great!!!

This is just what I need!

Thanks!!

Stratego
Knight
posted 04-16-05 12:48 EST (US)     9 / 26       
Besides there's one important information that everybody has to know about pictures that you can see on web sites:

1.They have to be saved as jpegs or gifs in the RGB colour mode (=screen mode) and not CMYK(= printing mode)!

2. The usual low resolution for these pics is 72 dpi (=dots per inch)

I doubt if everybody knows it...


Stratego

mr_howdy
Archer
posted 07-12-05 13:29 EST (US)     10 / 26       
i dloaded the thing for minimaps, but either i dloaded the wrong one (cause the link brought me to the dload main page) or i just cant figure out how to use it. heheh. any help would be nice
Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 07-12-05 14:49 EST (US)     11 / 26       
It only works for SH1 and Crusader, not SH2. Did you get it unzipped to your desktop?

*I'll have to check the link, as it might have changed when the download section was updated*

Edit: yes, new link!


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[This message has been edited by Kester (edited 07-12-2005 @ 02:50 PM).]

master teo
Archer
posted 09-09-05 12:04 EST (US)     12 / 26       
THANKS FOR YOUR TIPS!!!
Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 10-10-05 20:38 EST (US)     13 / 26       
Where are the image files after you do Alt+prtscr? I could not find them.

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Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 10-10-05 21:35 EST (US)     14 / 26       
Alt-PrintScreen just copies the image - then you have to paste it into another program, like Paint.

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Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 10-17-05 11:55 EST (US)     15 / 26       
Oh! Thank you. I will now start posting some *strange* enocounters in the game.

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Lord Edy
Archer
posted 12-17-05 15:15 EST (US)     16 / 26       
On the topic of pictures...

MyPic.jpeg
MyPic.gif
MyPic.png
MyPic.bmp
etc.
etc.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?!?!


I use the name Smyther everywhere now. Pronounced like "smiler" with a "the" in the middle.
Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 12-17-05 17:55 EST (US)     17 / 26       
Here's some info on the file formats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_file_formats

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Sparrow
Archer
posted 12-17-05 19:48 EST (US)     18 / 26       
Here's my take on the differences between the file types:

BMP is an uncompressed and therefore "lossless" file format. It basically retains all detail and color information but creates a huge sized file to do it. A screen shot in SH1 or Crusader is over 2 megabytes in size, far too big for efficient use on the internet.

The remaining three, GIF, PNG 8, and JPEG are all "lossy" formats, that is they use some form of compression to drastically reduce the size of the file, but must discard much of the detail and/or color information to do it. Applied appropriately, and when used (usually over the internet) for viewing on your computer screen, which is fairly low resolution, the results are quite good, often indistinguishable from a lossless format. These three formats use different compression schemes, making some better for certain types of pictures or graphics than others. The three have the most universal support in web browsers.

GIF compresses quite well in many instances. For certain graphics and pictures it can yield much smaller and better quality results than JPG. The number of colors to use can be specified up to a maximum of 256. GIF is generally best for graphics with solid color areas. It scans horizontally, so any bands of color that go across the graphic will compress very well. GIF does not do well with gradients, as they tend to create banding. Photos are usually better in JPG, but not always. Simpler photos occasionally do better with GIF, sometimes smaller, sharper, and with better colors. GIF is also able to make the background color transparent which can be very nice looking if the graphic is of an object. It also supports animation. JPG cannot do transparency or animation.

PNG comes in about 15 forms, PNG 8 and PNG 24 being the most common, which refer to the number of color bits they use. PNG 8 uses a maximum of 256 colors, similar to GIF. Its uses, file sizes, and results are similar to GIF, but files are usually smaller, especially for larger graphics. Certain forms of PNG can support true color (16 million colors). PNG does not support animation, but it does support background transparency. In fact it can go GIF one better since it can support up to 256 levels of alpha transparency.

JPG (or JPEG) generally is the best choice for photos and screen shots, since they tend to have a large range of tonal values and may have gradients. When saving a JPG you specify a quality value between 1 and 100, 1 being the worst quality but smallest file size, 100 being the best quality and largest file size. Many graphics programs limit your choice to only a few of these settings, or even just one.

While JPG usually creates small files it suffers from what is called "artifacting". JPG compresses using areas. The lower the quality the larger, therefore coarser, each area is, and you will see noticeable color changes, or artifacts (what look like out of place, different color pixels) between one target area and adjacent ones, and within each area. This is most noticeable in solid color areas, smooth tonal transitions, and especially around the edges of smooth color areas where they transition to a very contrasting color. JPG does best on photos or screen shots with very busy images, where nearby pixels constantly change color. In such an image the artifacting is less apparent, often becoming virtually invisible. Low quality JPGs also usually look less sharp than corresponding GIF or PNG images

File size comparison:

These figures are for a screen shot taken in SH1 and Crusader with ALT-Q, and will vary considerably from program to program:

BMP = 2.359MB (original screen shot)
GIF = 745K
PNG = 334K
JPG = 122K - 1.473MB, depending on quality setting


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von Schmidt
Archer
posted 05-10-07 07:36 EST (US)     19 / 26       
I have a question. Where will the screenshot appear after I press Alt=PrintScn? Will it be in my Stronghold: Crusader directory or somewhere else?

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Sulis
HG Alumnus
posted 05-10-07 09:44 EST (US)     20 / 26       
It's stored temporarily in the memory, I think. Or maybe on the Windows clipboard (PCDania would know the answer to this). You need to either paste it onto a word document or directly into your paint/image editing program. It's not saved directly onto your hard drive.
Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 05-10-07 09:56 EST (US)     21 / 26       
It is copied to your clip board.

You then can go to your image editing program (Microsoft Paint, Gimp, Pain.NET, etc) and paste it by using Ctrl + V or
by clicking "Edit" and "Paste". Then you can save it.

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von Schmidt
Archer
posted 05-10-07 18:33 EST (US)     22 / 26       
Thank you Sir Hugh.

I have now figured out how to do that.

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mulugse
Archer
posted 10-01-07 13:17 EST (US)     23 / 26       
Good!
Very powerful!
I needed this!
Very grateful!
Antithesis
Archer
posted 01-21-08 14:58 EST (US)     24 / 26       
Erm...does anyone know how to get those huge screenshots of the entire map? I've seen a couple around the forums, and I'm interested in knowing how it's done.

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Younghappy
Archer
posted 01-21-08 15:38 EST (US)     25 / 26       
Before you rush off to stronghold to try, wait for someone else to post as I probably do it wrong, do more work than I need to be doing...

Right click and get rid of the stronghold toolbar for extra space.
I take one screenshot of the bottom left corner of the map.
Press the Windows Kay to bring me to desktop.
Open paint and paste the piture in the bottom left of the drawing space.
Go back into stronghold and move to the right until edge of previous screenshot...press printscreen.
Paste in Paint and join together with other one.

I think Warlord Designs has a special program to do this.

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Antithesis
Archer
posted 01-21-08 18:09 EST (US)     26 / 26       
Thanks, Younghappy!Is there anyway I could contact them?

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