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Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 09-25-05 00:08 EST (US)         

The 2nd Stronghold Historical Castle Competition


As designing a historical castle was the most requested contest idea in The Jousting Ground, Stronghold 2 Heaven is proud to present the 2nd Historical Castle Competition.

Unlike previous contests, entries in this contest may be submitted from the original Stronghold, Stronghold Crusader, or Stronghold 2 games. If sufficient entries are submitted from each game, then we may decide to have a winner for each.

We have selected 7 castles for you to choose from (including 3 Crusader castles), and to get you started have found some historical information and floor plans on each of them.

•Carreg Cennon in Wales [castle info * floor plan]
•Warkworth in England [castle info * floor plan]
•Harlech in Wales [castle info & floor plan * aerial photo]
•Conwy in Wales [castle info * floor plan * aerial photo]

Crusader castles:

•Margat (Marqab) in Syria [castle info * floor plan]
•Krak de Chevaliers in Syria [castle info * floor plan]
•Mamure Kalesi in Turkey [castle info * floor plan]

Your entry should be as close to your chosen castle as possible, but can be of any of the available mission types. We'd like you to base any scenario details on historical events, but we're open to some creative 'What if?' scenarios as well.

So what exactly are we asking you to do?

•The map and castle should be based, as accurately as possible, on one of the 7 historical castles listed above.
•The scenario should be based on a historical event involving that castle, or on a feasible What if?

Other rules and notes:

•The closing date for entries is 30th November 2005.
•All scenario categories can be used.
•We will only accept scenarios that have not been uploaded before, but you can submit a scenario based on a castle already featured on Stronghold Heaven.
•Entries will be judged by the SH Staff on accuracy, historical merit and (of course) playability.

First prize: game of the winner's choice, up to US$40
Second prize: choice of HG t-shirt or hat

Entries should be sent to kester@heavengames.com

Good luck!
The Stronghold Heaven Staff


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[This message has been edited by Kester (edited 09-27-2005 @ 01:25 AM).]

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Jasper Tudor
Archer
posted 11-30-05 15:40 EST (US)     76 / 155       
Carreg Cennin was beseiged by Owain Glyndwr in 1403, and later during the War of the Roses. I know there was another castle there before, at the same spot, but that castle would have looked different, right? And the castle that you're challagned to reconstruct is the Norman castle, built in the late 13th/early 14th century.
Lord Edy
Archer
posted 11-30-05 16:26 EST (US)     77 / 155       
By the way Jasper,
sorry about Aberystwyth Castle.
*'is ashamed*

I use the name Smyther everywhere now. Pronounced like "smiler" with a "the" in the middle.

[This message has been edited by Lord Edy (edited 11-30-2005 @ 04:27 PM).]

WarLord_Designs
Archer
posted 12-01-05 08:30 EST (US)     78 / 155       
I was just wondering if possible why there is no list of designers who entered the comp? would you rather keep it secret? just curious

Arthus

Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 12-01-05 10:42 EST (US)     79 / 155       
I submitted my map late by 1 day. I might not be in it. I'm unsastified with the map I submitted. Here's a PNG

The castle town is slightly askew and a tower is missing from the castle town's wall. I think I should have made the castle slightly smaller and towards the center of the map. I want to redo it! I used all sorts of little tricks, but I think my map is terrible.


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Jasper Tudor
Archer
posted 12-01-05 10:50 EST (US)     80 / 155       
I usually don't play Crusader (at least not since I finished Reynald de Chatillon - The Siege of Kerak), but Sir Hugh's minimap of Marqab really got me interested. Looks like superior work.
NAT
Banned
posted 12-01-05 11:43 EST (US)     81 / 155       
Looks like a pretty cool minimap to me!
Lord Edy
Archer
posted 12-01-05 12:09 EST (US)     82 / 155       
Which castle is it?

And I would also like to see who entered what, or is that classified info?


I use the name Smyther everywhere now. Pronounced like "smiler" with a "the" in the middle.
Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 12-01-05 13:13 EST (US)     83 / 155       
It is Margat Castle also known as Marqab Castle.

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Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 12-01-05 17:07 EST (US)     84 / 155       
Kester, did you get the map? I received a email saying that I was unable to send a carbon copy to myself, but it didn't say if you got it or not.

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Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 12-01-05 18:07 EST (US)     85 / 155       

Quoted from WD:

I was just wondering if possible why there is no list of designers who entered the comp? would you rather keep it secret?

Yes, it's top secret! No, not really - I just hadn't thought about having a list. There are 6 entries (including yours, Sir Hugh). I'd rather let the entrants post in the thread if they want to be known before the end of the contest.

The maps are out to the judges!


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WarLord_Designs
Archer
posted 12-01-05 21:35 EST (US)     86 / 155       
Yes fair enough

Don't work too hard judges!

Arthus

Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-03-05 09:35 EST (US)     87 / 155       
I know it's late but could i please, please, please submit my entry today...I understand if i can't, can you let me know either way. Andy
Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 12-03-05 11:32 EST (US)     88 / 155       
My map has a good castle landscape, but the scenario is disappointing and I would like to edit it if possible? (ex. about 10years from last invasion to end need edit)

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NAT
Banned
posted 12-03-05 12:01 EST (US)     89 / 155       
I guess it should be ok Andy, but Kester will have to decide
Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 12-03-05 12:25 EST (US)     90 / 155       
Sorry, Andy, it's too late now

If I allowed it, then Sir Hugh and probably others would want more time to make changes to their maps, and they're already out for judging.


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Sir Hugh
BfME2H/SHH Seraph
posted 12-03-05 12:59 EST (US)     91 / 155       
Fair Enough. I didn't think I'd be able to anyway.

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Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-04-05 09:37 EST (US)     92 / 155       
Kester I'd be lying if i said i wasn't disappointed - i spent 2 months on this project and to be let down by internet failure at the time i was suppose to submit it sux. Bad luck or not i understand the rules. I can say though i never touched it at all since 29th November. It was all ready to be sent to you but for crappy internet connection.
I totally agree with your logic and for those who are looking for extra time to tweak thier maps would breach the rules of the competition, this isn't the case with me. I sincerely lost the chance to send it in. Maybe you would reconsider your decision This is indeed an official appeal.

WarLord_Designs
Archer
posted 12-04-05 10:20 EST (US)     93 / 155       
Would have helped your cause if you posted this earlier don't you think?

Arthus

Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-04-05 10:29 EST (US)     94 / 155       
Arthus, you are indeed wise...i should have warned of the potential risks up front ....let's wait until Kester replies.
WarLord_Designs
Archer
posted 12-04-05 10:37 EST (US)     95 / 155       

Quote:

you are indeed wise

well.... i try

Kester is the kindest moderator of any site i visit so who knows?
I respect you as a map maker and i want you in the comp but as kester has pointed out it's hard to let someone enter when the maps are already being judged plus the entrants that would see it as a sign of favoritism.

Let it be known i have no objections
Good luck,

Arthus

Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-04-05 10:45 EST (US)     96 / 155       
I know Kester is a nice person and i will never play on that niceness - but rules are rules - And if she says no i'm still gonna submit it as a regular map I wanted to be part of the comp but i've had fun making Conwy so i don't think i've lost out. Andy

PS i'm pleased fellow enterants like yourself don't mind

Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-04-05 11:19 EST (US)     97 / 155       

My map is called 'Conwy - No distance left to run!' (Taken from a Blur song ) This pic is of the castle but there is also a fully working town, caves, a ship, and lands where the player will start their campaign. Andy

Kester
Seraph Emeritus
posted 12-04-05 11:46 EST (US)     98 / 155       

Quote:

let down by internet failure

OK, for the sake of Internet failure and since you haven't worked on it since the 29th I'll allow it.


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Andy Baz
Archer
posted 12-04-05 11:51 EST (US)     99 / 155       
Thank you Kester....you are the jewl of Stronghold Heaven.
WarLord_Designs
Archer
posted 12-04-05 17:34 EST (US)     100 / 155       
Nice map, we did Conwy as well

I figured you'd be let off, its good you are in the comp

Arthus

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