Posted on 11/26/03 @ 12:00 AM (updated 12/05/03
Map name : "Helm's Deep Redux"
Version : 2.2
Type : Siege
Game : Stronghold
Size : 400x400
Recommended Side of Play : Defender (only)
Map Difficulty : Hard (Balanced in v1.2)
Recommended Difficulty of Play : Easy or Normal ( Hard for Veterans )
NOTE : DON'T play on very hard, as it leads to Sprite overload and erratic AI behaviour.
This is my second Helm's Deep map. My first one was made while I was but a noob in the design community and wanted to play a good Helm's Deep map based on the movie, since I could'nt find any, I just made one myself. It made me learn a lot about the Stronghold editor and since then I have learned a lot more, and set out to make a more accurate representation of the Helms Deep map.
This map took a long time to make, primarily since I wanted to recreate the feel of the movie as accurately as humanly possible. Amongst the variety of Helm's Deep maps availble, very few can do that. When the AI finally worked one day, I almost cried with happiness! It attacks the wall in a surprisingily Orc-like way and is a very fun battle through and through.
To make the AI work, I had to pre-place certain enemy forces on the map, and they blend very well with the AI army. I also had to do quite a bit of scripting to achieve the feel of the siege of Helm's Deep.
As a result of all that work, Crossbowmen flank the archers on your walls from nearby cliffs, and macemen hide behind siege towers while destroying your walls!
A little back of the envelope calculation shows that the number of enemy units you will encounter throughout the course of a normal level game give or take a few hundred:
As you can see, it is a very intense map.
Although, the structure is very accurate, it is the fun factor that I have concentrated upon, and I hope it appeals to Non-Tolkien enthusiasts as well.
A big achievement for me was the addition of the Rohan Cavalry (Rohirrim) which charge out to help defend the deep after 15 game months (changed to 17 months in v2.1).
NOTE : Do not select the Cavalry before 17 months, or they might fail to charge out automatically, or worse, not come at all!
There are a few people who I would like to thank. Their names and contribution is mentioned in the credits.txt file in the zip. Thanks Guys!
Keep in mind that This is a Tough Map! It was made to recreate the ultimate challenge, that was Helm's Deep and requires good use of all your troops. For the faint-hearted, tips to beat this map are also included in Tips.txt within the zip file.
v1.1 Changes :
-New Pig Mid-Game Message.
-Harder Last Wave.
-Earlier Last Wave.
v1.2 Changes :
-Balance Issues addressed.
-You'll see a bit more of the pig, playing the part of the Orc Commander to perfection ;).
v2.0 Changes :
-Inner side of outer wall and Outer side of inner wall made indestructable. Vastly improves AI efficiency.
-Tougher Last Wave.
v2.1 Changes :
-Took care of a loophole which allows you to trick the AI... not anymore.
-Rohirrim now arrive after 17 months.
-Added tips.txt to zip file, help out beginners.
v2.2 Changes :
-New placement of Rohirrim, they arrive at same time though.
-Harder Last wave consisting of 50 swordsmen, 100 Pikemen and 300 Macemen !
Now, off to the fun part!
Check out my other Lord of the Rings related maps :
-Movie Lotr2 : Helms Deep
-Movie Lotr2 : Edoras
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Im am sorry that i cannot reveiw this map because i cannot download it.
But i would just like to say you have done a fine job making this map
i would give the map a 5 out of 5
[Edited on 09/30/06 @ 12:19 PM]
Well it seems people are still reviewing this map, and I think ill join in
I would just like to say, this map is awesome! Great work. Some parts of the map are not quite right but this is still a good map. BTW: I have fixed my Helm's Deep and I will submit it soon.
[Edited on 03/17/07 @ 10:35 PM]
hey i think the map u created looks amazin and i really wanna try it but unfortunately I dnt really get on with computers and so im no good on em. Ive downloaded the file but cant play it. could some1 tell me how i can play, step by step lol. I have stronghold2 deluxe edition if that helps.
Ne1 that can help is a star
if you want an aswer to your question best to post it in the forums eg stronghold2 or stronghld1 (I am not sre what game you have). Don't worry abou which forum. Someone there can answer you :)
[Edited on 04/07/07 @ 06:40 AM]
Even though I just joined HG, I've seen my friend download many maps like this one (he's in love with LOTR, nothing wrong with that). I told him to download this one, and WOW. Amazing. Just like the movie. I'm really at a loss for words...
To get a 5.0 from UnikUnok AND HicRic? Both are legendary on Stronghold knights. Your legendary in Woad.
Amazing mapmaking skills. It must of taken ages.
(To even get a comment from this many people is amazing)
This is a real WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW Map ;)
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